20. Mom Life, Wife Life, Whatever Life with Marisa Lonic

November 3, 2021

In This Episode
Marisa Lonic helps the most overwhelmed mamas turn their dreams into reality, even when they thought they had no time to make any of it happen. As a former corporate executive who proved that you can balance mom life, wife life, and whatever life, Marisa shares how be more self-aware with practical tips to win beat mom guilt, overwhelm and stress.

Highlights
00:49 Marisa Lonic is a mom and time management and productivity coach. Prior to working for her business full-time, she worked as a corporate executive and still managed to keep her mom life, wife life, and whatever life balanced.
01:38 Being self-aware allows you to be a better person in general because you’re able to choose what to do with your time and use it in ways that you feel happy. In effect, this trickles down into your different roles as a mom, wife, entrepreneur, etc.
03:42 Overwhelm is a choice.
06:05 One thing that Marisa does to get clarity every day is to set three small intentional goals.
07:55 Although Rebbetzin Bat-Chen is free spirited and goes with the flow, her husband helped her build routines. She may have been resentful at first but she shifted her mindset into routines as something loving and supportive.
10:25 The programs and approach that Marisa uses on her clients are very direct. She has different ways that you can work with her depending on your personality. She has two books: Time Momagement: How to Get the Time You Need to Do the Things You Want and Word to your Mother: A Mama’s Guide to Journal Today and Slay Tomorrow for readers, and programs and courses for those who want to interact with her directly.
14:46 We all have our own circumstances and this vision that we don’t have time. All excuses are valid but you don’t have to let them run your life. The perfect time to start doing what you want to do is never going to come, so start now!
18:08 We can get thrown off by mom guilt but it can be managed. Marisa and Rebbetzin Bat-Chen share their experiences helping clients deal with mom guilty.
22:42 You can subscribe to Marisa’s free weekly newsletter, which gives access to free training. She also has breakthrough calls available on her website.
23:38 For 15 minutes every night, you can journal on your copy of Word to your Mother: A Mama’s Guide to Journal Today and Slay Tomorrow. It’s a quick daily ritual that helps you prioritize the mind, body, and soul.
25:22 The Marriage Breakthrough Retreat starts on November 8, 2021. Click here to join!

Links
Marriage Breakthrough Retreat
Marisa Lonic: Website | Facebook | Instagram
Time Momagement: How to Get the Time You Need to Do the Things You Want
Word to your Mother: A Mama’s Guide to Journal Today and Slay Tomorrow
5 Surprising Ways to Improve Your Marriage

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REBBETZIN BAT-CHEN GROSSMAN
Welcome to the Connected for Real Podcast! I’m Rebbetzin Bat-Chen Grossman, a marriage coach for women in business, and my mission is to bring God’s presence into your life, into your marriage, and into your business. Let’s get started. The following is one of the many conversations I had with experts and professionals about real life and how it affects marriage. Let me know your takeaways on Instagram or Facebook, @connectedforreal. Enjoy. And we are live. Welcome everyone to the Connected for Real Podcast. I’m so excited because today we have Marisa Lonic, and we also have my baby visiting us right here. He did not want to go to sleep so he is with us. So, it’s going to be exciting. So, if you don’t know I am Rebbetzin Bat-Chen Grossman. I am a marriage coach for women in business and Marisa is a time management coach. So, she’s going to tell us all about it. Go ahead.

MARISA LONIC
Yeah, hi. Thank you so much for having me. So, I’m Marisa Lonic. I’m a time management and productivity coach. I work mostly with moms. I am a mom of four. My kids are eight, eight, four, and two. I’m a former corporate executive, so up until recently I was working full-time in the corporate space while managing my business, while being married, while having four young kids at home, and guess what? I made it work and if you are an ambitious mama who has dreams and feels like you have no time, you can make it work too, and I want to help you do that. So, I’m excited to be here, to be diving into these time management concepts, these strategies, these tips I want to share with you today and I’m looking forward to it.

REBBETZIN BAT-CHEN GROSSMAN
That’s awesome. Okay, so right before we went live, I asked you, “How is your work affecting your marriage?” and I want everyone to hear this because it is such a beautiful answer that you gave. So, go ahead tell us how your work affects your marriage.

MARISA LONIC
Absolutely. So as I mentioned before, I think when you are self-aware, when you know yourself really well, you’re able to be a better person in general, right? Because you’re able to do things, you’re able to manage your time, you’re able to choose how you want to spend it in ways that make you feel fulfilled, that make you feel happy, that make you feel like you are using your gifts with the world, all of these things, and what does that do? That trickles into all the relationships into your life, so that makes you a better wife, that makes you a better mom, a better employee or entrepreneur, a better sister, friend—all the things. Because when you’re happy, you’re exuding that energy onto everyone else around you, and on the contrary, when you’re not using your time in the ways that you actually want to use it, when you’re doing all the things for everyone else and nothing for you, when you’re not fulfilling the things that you want to do, your dreams your ambitions, you get resentful. You get grumpy. You get impatient. All of these things translate into how you are managing your marriage, your parenting—all the relationships around you so I’m a big proponent of using your time wisely and effectively to make yourself happy so that you can be in a happy marriage and a happy relationship.

REBBETZIN BAT-CHEN GROSSMAN
I love that and it is so important what you said—my marriage has gotten better since I started working because being an entrepreneur and having to have you know all these things juggling in the air and trying to figure it all out, it can throw you off and make you completely focused and obsessive over your business or it could lead you to more self-work and more transformation. You have to be very aware and very conscious so that it takes you in the right direction.

MARISA LONIC
Yeah. Can I comment on that really quick? I think something you’re describing there is a feeling of overwhelm. It can be overwhelming to be an entrepreneur, a wife, a mom—all of those things right but guess what? It can be overwhelming to not be a mom, to not be in a relationship, to be running your business as a single woman—it can be overwhelming in any case because overwhelm is a choice. It’s a choice you make so no matter what your situation is, you choose. You choose. Do you want to feel overwhelmed or do you not? I’ll give you a really like simple silly example of this. So, let’s say you’re in the supermarket and you got your shopping cart and you’re rolling down the aisles and you get to the bread aisle, okay? Now, typically there are a lot of bread options, right? Whole wheat bread, white bread, English muffins, bagels, corn, tortillas, flour tortillas—I mean, we could go on and on and on. There’s a lot of bread options, right? You could sit there looking at all the options. You could feel overwhelmed by it. You could feel like, “Oh my gosh. I have no idea what type of bread to choose,” start reading all the labels, get into analysis paralysis, not make a decision, feel just totally enveloped and overwhelmed, or you could roll down the aisle with your cart, you could go right to the bread that you want, you could grab it, pop it in, and move on and not feel a tinge of it. So, it’s a choice. It’s how you choose to feel.

REBBETZIN BAT-CHEN GROSSMAN
Right. We don’t usually think of it as a choice because when you’re feeling overwhelmed you usually feel like it’s out of your control and you feel very much like a victim to overwhelm. So, to hear you saying it’s a choice is so powerful because once it’s a choice, then you also get to choose otherwise, which is very freeing in a[n] awkward way, but I really love that. I call it decision fatigue, where you have to make too many decisions, you get tired of just deciding. It’s so it’s so powerful to know what you want.

MARISA LONIC
Yeah, and it comes down to that clarity. It comes down to that clarity. So, whether that’s managing your time, making big life choices, the day-to-day, daily grind—once you have that clarity and you get in the habit of having clarity, everything becomes easier.

REBBETZIN BAT-CHEN GROSSMAN
Yeah, yeah. What is one thing that you do to get clarity every day?

MARISA LONIC
Yes, so I think it is really, really important every single day to set three small intentional goals. These are things you will absolutely get done; you will hold yourself accountable for—they don’t have to be at specific times. You can do them whenever the pockets of time you can fit them in. You can be very flexible with them but you’re also going to be very accountable with them. So, again very small—they don’t have to be huge, tremendous things. You’re not going to change the world in one day but when you’re doing three small things day in and day out every single day, you’ll be surprised when you look back on your week or your month how much you actually were able to get closer to maybe a major goal or a major life shift that you want to make.

REBBETZIN BAT-CHEN GROSSMAN
Yeah, now here’s a question. Do you pick three of the same thing to start showing yourself that you can be consistent or do you pick three separate different things every day that you just feel—like, “Today, I really want to get the laundry done. I want to eat a good breakfast and I want to—I don’t know—have lunch ready for the kids.” Is that is it like that or is it, “Every day I want to pray every morning. I want to make myself whatever—is it consistent or is it random?

MARISA LONIC
Yeah, well here’s my answer. I think you could go either way with it. I think if you’re trying to form a habit, I’d be consistent with it for 21 days because that’s how long the experts say it takes to form a habit. So, if it is that you want to form the habit of, “Every morning I’m gonna wake up and dedicate five minutes to prayer,” then that’s what you’re gonna do, right? Then once that starts to feel very like a non-effort in itself, like you don’t even have to think about it, you don’t care about checking it off your list because you’re doing it anyway, well then replace that with something else.

REBBETZIN BAT-CHEN GROSSMAN
I really like that. I’m very go with the flow and until I got married my husband’s very much routine, consistency, acts of service. It’s very nice but it’s very not me. [Laughs] I always laugh that God does that just so we can find ourselves somewhere in the middle. So, my husband’s very routine-y and I’m very not and getting married to that routine lifestyle was really surprising because I thought, “Oh, I’m just a go with the flow and I’m not a routine person so it’s just not for me,” but it was amazing to see how much easier it is when you have a routine. So, it’s a little shocking, then you don’t have to think about it. I know I’m showering every single night, so I don’t have to make decisions about, “Wait is my hair oily or not? Wait do I need to shower tonight, or do I need to shower in the morning? Should I shower tomorrow, or should I shower now? I’m too tired? I am tired.” It’s like it doesn’t even cross my mind anymore. For the last 15 years, I’ve just been showering every single night and the funny thing is that it wasn’t that hard to fall into step because it was so expected of me, and like you said it takes 21 days to get used to something new like that but I was so excited as a new wife that I just wanted to keep doing it, and so when it started getting not as fun, it was already part of my day so I just do it anyway, you know? I remember feeling resentful like, “Why are you making me do this? It’s not my thing,” and then realizing that it’s actually to my advantage and so I turned it consciously into something loving and something supportive. I’m grateful to my husband that he put me on certain routines and certain habits just because it’s really good for me.

MARISA LONIC
Yeah, yeah. It’s exactly what you said when you’re in a routine or you have certain habits, they become things you don’t even need to think about. They become things that require no effort, no decision making. So, you have more space in your very heavy mental load that you’re already carrying for other things—for things that bring you more joy, things that are more fun. So if it’s in your routine already, it’s not something that you need to necessarily put that effort into every day.

REBBETZIN BAT-CHEN GROSSMAN
I love that. I love it so much. Awesome. Tell us a little bit about how you work with people, what it is that you do with them, how you help moms have it all or have whatever they want to have.

MARISA LONIC
Yeah, absolutely. So, I am a native New Yorker, so I’m kind of like a very direct approach and also I feel like as busy moms, we got no time to waste right so my programs, my style, my writing style, all of it, there’s no fluff in there. I’m gonna give it to you straight. I’m max efficiency here. I want you to get the most bang for your buck in the amount of time in your investment. So, I have a number of different ways that you can work with me, or you can reap the benefits of this. If you’re a reader, I’ve written two books. One is called Time Momagement: How to Get the Time You Need to Do the Things You Want, the other is a journal planner called Word to your Mother: A Mama’s Guide to Journal Today and Slay Tomorrow. Yeah, yeah. What else? Obviously, I do one-on-one coaching programs and I’ve got something really, really cool that I want to tell you about that’s kind of a conjunction, like a bundle package when it comes to that so it’s called a Time Management Deep Dive, and what this is is for three days you take my proprietary, self-assessment called the Three-day Test, where you document how you’re managing, how you’re using your time, what you’re multitasking, what you’re not—you get really, really honest for those three days. You get it all down on Excel or on paper, and then after that you and I meet for an hour and we strategize. We look at this and we strategize how to specifically get you one, two, maybe even three hours back into your day so that you have time for the things you love. So that you’re able to really not feel so overwhelmed, not feel so stressed, so frazzled all the time, and you have this free space to use how you want to, and then if you’re somebody who likes doing kind of your own pace I also have courses that you can tap into.

REBBETZIN BAT-CHEN GROSSMAN
Cool. I love that that you give homework to prepare for the meeting. Because when you come to the meeting, you’re just so much more ready to sit down and deal with this.

MARISA LONIC
Yeah, there’s nothing like seeing it in black and white on paper because I think we all have this vision of that we don’t have time, that we’re so busy and the excuses are valid. Listen, we all have our circumstances. We all have the juggle of what we’re doing so I don’t want to shame that in any way. I don’t want to make anyone feel like that’s a lie or that’s bad but when you see, actually how you’re using your time on paper or on this you know electronic document, and you take a look at that with someone on the outside who’s objective, it’s so much easier to see what can be shifted, what can be moved around, what can be delegated that you weren’t thinking of in that way. It’s really amazing the results you can get from even just that one deep dive session. I call it the Time Management Deep Dive.

REBBETZIN BAT-CHEN GROSSMAN
I love it. You know what’s interesting? You just reminded me of baby sleep training and I think it’s so it’s so parallel because most people will try to put their baby on a schedule, and what I found works really, really well and is one of my biggest advice from other moms, is first track the baby’s routine. He has a schedule. He has his own rhythm, and before you start telling him what to do, first see what he’s already doing, and sometimes it’s just about noticing and tweaking that will give you better sleep results or whatever you want to call it than if you were to put him on a whole new schedule and start to like train him to be something he’s not. So, I feel like the same way with us. Sometimes if you’re just aware of your rhythm, you can be a lot more productive by bringing awareness to it than it would be if you forced yourself into a different box completely.

MARISA LONIC
Absolutely. I mean, it’s not a one size fits all. It’s not like, “Go buy this planner. Go do these three things and your life’s gonna change forever.” This needs to be customized to your situation and your life.

REBBETZIN BAT-CHEN GROSSMAN
Yeah, I love that. Yes. I resonate with everything you’re saying. I like that you said all excuses are valid, but you don’t have to buy them. You don’t have to let them run your life, and I mean I just want to bring this up because this is some mindset work I’ve been working on and some behind the scenes that my listeners love behind the scenes, so I’m going to share them with you. I did a lot of work yesterday and today on letting go of the resentment that my kids are distracting me, getting in my way, or whatever making noise in the background. The big line was like “Oh, my kids are in the way. No, my kids are the way,” and then I did a lot of releasing, a lot of work, and a lot of journaling. [Sighs] I’m really grateful that it happened today that my baby is not sleeping and just making noise in the background. He’s in a good mood, so it’s all good. He’s happy but he is making you know the cooing sounds and the not—people listening on a podcast like, “Oh, that baby in the background is so— it’s hard to hear,” or something and I’m thinking, “Okay, but thank God this is my life,” and so I can either be like, “Okay, I have seven kids. I can’t do this business thing. I’m just gonna wait till they all grow up, and then I’ll lean into my purpose,” right? I could and it’s totally valid. There’s millions of women who do that and it’s fine, especially for my mother’s generation it’s like a real theme. “I’m waiting for my kids to grow up so I could start living,” but I choose not to for myself. I choose to actually lean in, be totally honest and real, and say it like, “I have a baby in the background and he’s on screen. He’s delicious, cute, and yummy,” and just in a year or two we’ll be looking at these going, “Oh my gosh. He was so cute. Look at that. He grew up so much.” It’s just documenting my life and I’m just doing my thing. I could be all resentful and frustrated but I’ve made a real decision and done a lot of work to just be like, “No, let it go. Release,” and I think that gives permission to other people to just be themselves and be imperfect—perfectly imperfect.

MARISA LONIC
Yeah. I love that you said that. I think we need to remember that the perfect time to start is never going to come. So, you could say, “I’ll wait till the kids are in school.” “I’ll wait till the pandemic’s over.” “I’ll wait you know till winter’s here or winter’s over—” whatever it is. It’s never going to be perfect—ever, ever. You’ll be waiting forever. So just start. Just make a change.

REBBETZIN BAT-CHEN GROSSMAN
You know, I just read something so beautiful. There was a man who asked what the difference between a dream and a goal is—said the goal has a deadline. You could say, “Oh, I dream of helping other women.” “I dream of bringing God’s presence into the home,” and all these things that—these are my whys. This is what my things are, and it’s like, “Okay, when are you doing it? When is it getting done if it’s not on the calendar?”

MARISA LONIC
If it’s not scheduled, it’s not real. [Laughs]

REBBETZIN BAT-CHEN GROSSMAN
If you didn’t post it, it didn’t happen right. So yeah, it just it’s like we did today. We scheduled the podcast, we did it, and it is what it is. It’s amazing. It’s so much fun. Louise says she’s never been bothered by beautiful baby noises whether it’s screaming or cooing. “Mind you same thing happened to me when I was flying with babies and my stress and anxiety would escalate as a result.” Yes, we feel so much guilt, which is the other thing we wanted to talk about—is all that mommy guilt.

MARISA LONIC
Yeah, yeah, and let’s just let’s clear the air. We always feel bad about situations like this or when our kid has a meltdown in Target or whatever the situation is—nobody cares nobody’s looking at you with shame. People feel bad for you guys. People feel like, “Oh, I wish I could help that person,” or, “I’ve been there.” It’s so relatable so we have to stop trying to think that these situations are getting us evil eyes or anything. They’re not, right? They’re not at all. Look, you got a beautiful comment from a listener who is loving our surprise guest here today, and I think that’s great but let’s talk a little bit about guilt because mom guilt is real. Mom guilt is legit. Mom guilt—she arrives as this new person in your life when you find out you’re expecting a baby, and she basically never leaves, right? She’s like a terrible neighbor that you can’t move away from, so we have to learn how to deal with her. When it comes to time management, you may not think that this is necessarily a concept but I think, and having worked with tons and tons of moms and being a mom myself in those shoes, it’s something that you need to manage just as much as your time because you could do all the work, you could have all the systems in place, be the most organized person, just really have it down to a science and if you haven’t worked on your mom guilt factor, if you haven’t learned how to tame that and manage that, it’s just all for nothing. I mean, there’s no point in doing it at all. So yeah, guilt is real. Guilt needs to be managed. We need to put ourselves in a place where we’re not feeling selfish for doing things for ourselves, for managing our time in ways that make us feel good, and this was a big game changer for me that I’ll share. To realize that the way we are embodying this, the way we are managing our time, and let’s say, putting our business as a priority—making our business a priority, making our self-care is a priority, whatever it is, our marriage a priority, all of these things, we’re parenting this to our kids. We’re embodying this. We’re setting the example for them when they get older that they’re gonna follow in those footsteps. If they see mommy just always doing everything for everyone and not doing anything for herself, guess what? They’re gonna grow up doing the same thing. Do you want that for your daughter or for your son? I don’t. I don’t. I want my kids living their best life, doing all the things that make them happy, so I have to do that to show them that it’s okay.

REBBETZIN BAT-CHEN GROSSMAN
Right, and it’s so amazing that you said that. The one thing I want to say is that you don’t have to live with her in that size and in that vicinity forever. [Laughs] You can move. Something I did with my client the other day was she closed her eyes, we did a lot of relaxing, breathing and then we started changing her. So, suddenly she became very small and we took away the color, and she put her in a box so she doesn’t have to hear her so loud—in a glass box and she put her in her back pocket and not on her shoulder right there. So, she can be there, but she doesn’t have to be as loud. She doesn’t have to be as prominent. She doesn’t even have to be as colorful or as important as we have her now. It’s so helpful to just know that you have the control over that, and I love that Kathy Heller says, “Fear can come along but fear can’t drive.” You could be in the backseat. You don’t get to make decisions I think that about guilt too. It’s okay. Guilt is here to keep me accountable because it knows my top priority is my marriage and my parenting. So, if I’m starting to be too much to one side, it’s gonna show me. It’s gonna wake me up. It’s gonna wave its hands and scream but I don’t have to let it stop me from doing what I wanna do at the right times. I can trust myself that I can keep my own promises and I can do my things. I don’t need you to be right there in front of my face every single second, right?

MARISA LONIC
Exactly, exactly.

REBBETZIN BAT-CHEN GROSSMAN
Yeah, so I like that we can tweak each other’s words. It’s fun. Oh, this is so fun. Okay, so where can people find you

MARISA LONIC
So you can find me on my website mamaworkit.com. It’s m-a-m-a workit.com. I am on Facebook and Instagram at the handle @letmamaworkit, and I would love to have you become a subscriber. I send a free weekly newsletter. Right now, if you subscribe you have access to a free training. It’s the three biggest mistakes moms make when it comes to time management. So, you can get access to that, absolutely, and if you really resonated with what we chatted about today and you want to chat with me in a totally free breakthrough call, I would love to talk with you. It’s 45 minutes. It’s, again, completely free. I just get to know you, get to know what you’re managing, what you’re dealing with, and we strategize ways to help you break free of that, so you can sign up for that right on my website. There’s a link to do that there.

REBBETZIN BAT-CHEN GROSSMAN
That’s awesome. That sounds amazing. Okay, about your book, the second one was a journal or journal planner.

MARISA LONIC
It’s called Word to your Mother: A Mama’s Guide to Journal Today and Slay Tomorrow, and what it is is for 15 minutes every night, no more than that because I know we’re busy, you do this daily sort of ritual, this daily exercise. You reflect on your day. How did you feel when you woke up? How do you feel right now, right? I think a lot of moms go to sleep feeling really defeated, exhausted sometimes. I don’t want to feel like that. I want to feel accomplished, good and proud of myself for the day, right? So we reflect on our day a little bit. We do a little bit of prompted journaling and then we talk about how we’re going to slay the day. We set intentions for the next day. We set our three small goals. We prioritize self-care for the mind, the body, and the soul because that often gets put to the bottom of the to-do list and never gets done, but I am a firm believer that when it’s written down especially in black ink, it is much more easy to accomplish and it feels more real. It feels like that goal versus wish or dream. So yeah, it is a really quick daily ritual that you do. It helps you sleep better because a lot of that stuff that’s running around your brain that’s making you feel all cluttered in there, you get it down on paper and you know exactly what you’re gonna get done the next day. You can hold yourself accountable and you can sleep more easily.

REBBETZIN BAT-CHEN GROSSMAN
So, is it an actual planner that you fill in or is it a planner that teaches you how to do it?

MARISA LONIC
No, I mean there are prompts of what I’m going to get done tomorrow, what intention I’m going to set—

REBBETZIN BAT-CHEN GROSSMAN
There’s lines to fill in?

MARISA LONIC
Yes, yes. It’s like a workbook, exactly. Yeah.

REBBETZIN BAT-CHEN GROSSMAN
I love that. Okay, cool. I just wanted to hear more about that.

MARISA LONIC
You got it.

REBBETZIN BAT-CHEN GROSSMAN
Yeah. Okay, and it’s fun because I get to talk about what I’m up to and there is a Marriage Breakthrough Retreat, which is a seven-day free retreat for women in business and it’s all about marriage, it’s all about breaking through to the next level. It’s really geared for women who are happy in their marriage and feel really high priority—my marriage is a high priority and my business is a high priority because I get to shine and I get to lean into my purpose, and how do we make those two really come together in such a beautiful way. I’ll give you a spoiler. It’s by connecting to God really, like making both of them go in the right in the same direction as opposed to in two different directions, but that’s not what the Marriage Breakthrough Retreat is about. It’s just the answer to my question. It starts November 8th and it’s epic. This is my third time doing it. I did two when I was pregnant and it was so amazing. People had the best I wouldn’t say results but I call it the Marriage Breakthrough because it is exactly that. There’s like a breakthrough and then you feel it and you’re in shock. It’s like, “I didn’t even think this was possible,” so I highly recommend that you go to connectedforreal.com/retreat and sign up now. That sounded like a really great what’s it called it’s advertisement—

MARISA LONIC
Commercial.

REBBETZIN BAT-CHEN GROSSMAN
It sounded like a commercial. “Go sign up now for your free seven-day retreat.” No, but it’s really fun. I talk about this on the retreat but the reason why I do it is seven days and I give everything, full abundance is that I really hated when people did like a taste of something. Like, “Oh, let me show you—never mind you have to work with me,” and it’s like, “Ah, why do I have to get this far and not get to the next level?” It’s like you feel like you’re banging into a glass wall because you see it but you can’t get to it, and so I when I finally was okay with doing things my way, which takes time when you’re giving yourself permission, I decided I’m doing it all the way. I’m not making this like a webinar or something short. I’m going all the way. I’m giving my full self and it feels so good, and when you do something like that then everybody else feels like they are able to receive it like that.

MARISA LONIC
Everybody benefits.

REBBETZIN BAT-CHEN GROSSMAN
Yeah, yeah. So, it’s been it’s been pretty wild and I’m very excited because it’s my first time after the baby so it’s exciting for me.

MARISA LONIC
That is exciting.

REBBETZIN BAT-CHEN GROSSMAN
Yeah, I’m very excited. Okay, cool so we are done for today. There is no more comments and if you do have a comment, make sure to tag me or Marissa on Instagram. What’s your handle again?

MARISA LONIC
@letmamaworkit

REBBETZIN BAT-CHEN GROSSMAN
Yes, @letmamaworkit and I’m @connectedforreal, so you guys can definitely shoot us questions. Get in touch and we will get back to you. Thank you so much. Have a wonderful day and don’t forget you can be connected for real.

VIRGINIA TOWO
I attended Bat-Chen’s retreat in May. Actually, it was last minute because I jumped on as a helper from behind the scenes. But what I can tell you guys is life changing. If you are in that space of a married woman, businesswoman, entrepreneur, you’re starting your business or you’re juggling parenting and being a mom and a wife with that space in the business sector. I want to highly recommend this retreat, and because I was from behind the scenes and observing how she delivered her content, these are the things that I was able to actually see delivered her content, the way she connected on a one to one in a really sensitive, visible way. I could see that she saw every woman that was on that retreat. She connected with all of them. She heard and she listened to them, but she was also able to carry the whole group because it felt safe. She was a safe person to engage with, to speak with, to converse with. The content was also quite very high class. It was very applicable easily and simply into our normal day-to-day lives as working women and working mothers and women in the business sector. So, I want to highly recommend that if you’re thinking or you’re on the sidelines of attending this next retreat in November, it will be worth your while. This woman is gifted. She knows her stuff. She knows what she’s talking about. I was able to just sit back and observe her deliver this content that s life changing, and I think I will go again, even though I jumped in last minute. I just want to actually receive this time and be a participant in the retreat. So, I encourage you to attend. I encourage you to sign up for the retreat. I encourage you to get in touch with her. She surely is gifted. She’s an amazing, amazing encourager and she will build your faith up. She will build you up in that business space and thank you for listening.

TOVA RINA SCHIFF
Hi! This is Tova Rina Schiff. I attended two of Rebbetzin Bat-Chen’s Marriage Breakthrough Retreats. She takes you a very smooth 7-day journey together with like-minded woman, who all wanna bring balance to their marriage. She has homework and a personalized phone meeting, and other amazing bonuses, and through the 7 days, Bat-Chen helps you change your habits and patterns one small, simple step at a time on a short 7 days. I highly, highly recommend this Marriage Breakthrough Retreat, and I cannot wait to see you there.

REBBETZIN BAT-CHEN GROSSMAN
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