248. Learning to Surrender When Life Doesn’t Go as Planned

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 Welcome to the Connected for Real podcast. I’m Rebbetzin Bat-Chen Grossman, a marriage coach for women in business, and my mission is to bring G-d’s presence into your life, into your marriage, and into your business. Let’s get started. 

And we are live. Welcome, everyone, to the Connected for Real podcast. I’m Rebbetzin Bat-Chen Grossman, and today with me is Blima Nachama. Blima Nachama, introduce yourself and tell us why you are so amazing. Hi. This is such an honor, genuinely. Been watching, following, and thank you that it is happening. I’m Blima Nachama. I live in Beitar Illit. I’m originally born and grown in Philly, and been here for 21 years. Wow. Nice. Very cool. We’re gonna talk today about resilience and God, and I can go in so many directions with this. But I wanna first hear what your specialty is, what you do, and also we’re sharing screen right now, so whoever’s watching on YouTube or if you wanna see and you’re just listening we’ll make sure to put the links in your email so that you can really see it. What do you do? So I’m an artist, and I’d like to say that I’m an artist that sometimes just steps back from her work and says, “How did that happen?” Because I really believe that I’m being channeled, and not in a woo-hoo spooky type of a way. There is definitely skill, not from an ego place, but training, and I work on my skills to always be improving. But at the end of the day, whatever comes out is completely a divine flow. And so my art really, I believe, is my mission, besides having a family, which is really the main point. But the side hustle is getting out art into the world that people can see, feel moved by, see their own journey and story in, feel connected, and find themselves, and to the topic, find their resilience, because that’s what my art does. It sees you, it meets you where you are, which is why everybody feels something and sees something different. And when that happens, that transformation can take place where you connect with your soul and the meaning behind the journey that you’re on. That’s so beautiful. So you have your screen shared. Show us a little bit of what you want to share with everybody, and you can even just, you know, talk about resilience and how that relates to G-d and not just, resilience in general. What comes up for you? So interesting because I was trying to put together some collections and rework my site, and I realized that I have a few very specific themes that seem to come up. I seem to paint a lot of light, candles. I seem to paint a lot of redemption. So for the religious Jew, that would be the Beit HaMikdash, the sanctuary that G-d willing one day we will experience here on this earth. And the third one is women. Women searching, women being. And a lot of journey work, a lot of paths. So now I forgot your question ’cause I got carried away with my work. So remind me what it was. Yeah. It’s really beautiful. I love the paths ’cause it really is so… It’s fascinating how we all have a path. So within that path that we all have, I wanna hear a little bit about the resilience as it pertains to G-d, as it pertains to our journey within this world. Yeah. I’ve have been on a journey like we all are, and I’m sure that a lot of your followers, because they are strong, powerful, sincere humans on this planet who are looking for truth always, have heard of probably the hero’s journey. We’re all on a journey, and in that journey we’re constantly going up and down. We are being called to a higher truth, and we lose sight of that very often. And the world was created for us to lose sight of it so that we would use our free will to come back to it. And we get these little reminders, and sometimes not so little reminders. And sometimes they’re painful, sometimes they come from gratitude and joy and complete abundance, but they’re always there. And that’s what I see, is these resilient people, wherever you live, wherever you look, whatever your externals are, coming back over and over and over again- And trying again and picking up the pieces. And that’s what I want more than anything, is for everyone to find that core again. And for me, I’ve had a lot of, a lot of help on my hero’s journey, whether it was a book showing up at the right time, or a speaker, a podcast, a mentor. My kids, they are the best teachers ’cause they are a mirror for everything, and my art. And those things are constantly pointing me back to what is true, and that merging of the physical and the spiritual constantly brings me back to, it’s really comes back to one. We’re a piece of God, and that piece is indestructible no matter what has happened. It makes us so strong. It takes away victimhood. It makes us show up to life again and again and again, and all of us do it. Yeah, I love that you said we have a godly part in us, and that godly part is indestructible. And that really is where the resilience comes in, because we are resilient because God made us resilient Yep. And that’s really powerful How do you do your art? Such a good question. I come to my room with intentions most of the time because I have an ego like the rest of the world, and I have a specific plan that I want. And m- 99% of the time it does not come out how I want, and I’m constantly being called to submit my will in life and into my art, ’cause specifically you asked about my art. And when I surrender, my left brain shuts off. I let go. I usually start with huge swashes of paint, huge, big canvases, and I’m usually listening to some sort of Torah or to some spiritual and holy music. I always give a prayer first. That is even when I’m struggling to have my will, ’cause I want this picture to turn out a specific way. And then because it’s a metaphor for me for life, it’s when I just let what’s supposed to happen happen, like in this podcast, before I came on, I just said, “God, whatever is supposed to be is supposed to be,” and I just accept. Things just show up and flow, and I just, my paintbrush just goes. And I’ll use spray paint. I will then start to refine and do stronger, bolder marks, highlights, and I’ll guide my paintbrush in a more refined way. But the beginning, I completely let go. And then, like all of life, the messy middle comes, and boy does it hit me. And I think, without fail, there’s not a single painting I’ve ever painted that I think, “I’m not an artist. I can’t do this.” And I don’t know how many of you listening have felt that in your lives. “I, I wasn’t born for this. No, this was not meant for me. I can’t do this. God, stop. I, I’m not showing up to this party.” But if we push through to the other side, because this whole idea of resilience, when we, we did show up for this. If we do show up for it, because we did sign this, I, I call it a soul contract, before we came down, for every single trial and tribulation. We don’t like hearing it, but we did. And then we got the capability to face it from that God place. So when I push through that messy middle, something magical emerges, and I don’t know what it’ll be. I don’t know what it’ll be in real life. But when something happens, either with my painting, ’cause that’s the specific question you asked, or in real life, and I say, “I’m showing up. I don’t know how I’m gonna show up because I think I can’t do this. But you can do this, and you put a piece of you in me. That little piece can do it, and you didn’t bring me here to fail,” it becomes a journey of, of beauty and stillness and quiet, and we do get there in the end. Yeah, so I want to talk more about the surrender because- Mm-hmm You know, there’s a lot of words that people say that the listener is like, “Yeah, but how?” You know? And I think that’s one of them. Like, I surrender to my, you know, to my art. I surrender to life. I surrender to G-d. And it’s like, yeah, but how? Give me the step by step. And so I’m, I’m like throwing the question at you because, you know, you seem to be like on a roll here. I really wanna hear what your take on this is. Here is the simple answer that is not pretty. There is no how, because every single time we’re being asked we don’t know. So what worked in one situation is not necessarily going to work now, and that’s the true, honest how is, I don’t know. It’s humbling. I don’t know. Show me. Hey, Neni, I’m here. And that humbleness is so beloved to G-d. It’s so sweet and precious, and it’s so not easy. Right. ‘Cause we really either wanna run, hide, stick our heads in the sand, or fight and get our way. And that it’s really simpler. It’s just, I don’t know. I don’t know, but I’m staying. I’m not running. I’m not fighting. I’m not sticking my head in the sand even though I want to. Yeah. I love that answer. I love that answer of saying I don’t know. I have this a lot when I’m doing a meditation with a client, and I start my meditation and I’m like, “Yeah, this is what we’re gonna do.” And then of course, like, I have no idea what we’re doing. And midway I’m like, “G-d, what, what was supposed to happen now? Like, where are we going with this?” And, and that’s that’s really the surrender is, like, bring G-d in because He knows, and I don’t know. And that’s usually, like, the coolest things happen when I mid-sentence just, like, sort of pause and ask That’s beautiful, yep. Yeah How big are your paintings? So I have some that are just your standard, regular 8.4s or 8.3s, and I have some that are 250 meters, really big- Wow … by 250 meters. So it really runs the gamut, and my art also does. I have things that are more on the realistic side, but a lot on the more abstract side. I go from watercolors to acrylics to oils, and everyone says, “You have to have a niche. You have to have a specific something.” And I say, “No.” I can’t, ’cause you’re telling me to stay in a box, and I don’t want to. That’s not gonna light me up, and my best work isn’t gonna come back. So the same way I have small pieces and big pieces, I have all sorts of mediums that I use. Yeah. I think that that’s when we talk about niche… I’m, I’m gonna get into, like, my business brain right now. Mm-hmm. But, like, when we talk about niche, the niche doesn’t have to be the size or the medium. Mm-hmm. Like, could be what you said before, is like the journey, the unique experience, the you know, resonance of, like, looking at a piece and feeling, “Ah, she made that for me. She made that about me.” and so, like, I think you do that really well because m- you know, you’re, like, scrolling through your, your different gallery pieces, and they are very different, but they’re also so similar in the fact that everybody could look at it and find something that is like, “Oh, I get what this is about.” And it could be about anything, but they see what it’s about for them. I think that’s really powerful, and that’s, that’s definitely a niche. You put that really well. I’m gonna write that down for myself. Yeah. Let’s talk about resilience in regular life. Mm-hmm. How can people use what you portray or illustrate so beautifully with your art in their world, in their life, in their experience? What specifically do you want me to address? Well, I think a lot of the people listening are not themselves artists, you know? Mm-hmm. But they, they all are living life, and they’re all dealing with things that they can’t control, they didn’t ask for, you know? I don’t know anybody who asks for any of these things that we’re going through. But, you know, there’s something in the process of the art that guides the path towards hardship that creates that resilience that I think you really put your finger on and can really speak about. So I recently, I mean, this is going back many years, but recently I came across the work of Terry Rubenstein. Have you heard of her? No. Okay. She’s the next person you need to talk to on your podcast. Her whole work is, is based on this that’s her life work is the resilience inside, and specifically she works with families. And we come from a very outside-in perspective on life, where we are taught from a very young age in schools and media that the outside world affects how we feel and affects how we can show up in life. Because X, Y, and Z happened, I only have the capabilities for… I, I was never good at a mathlet or I started with X, Y, and Z instead of ABC, but you get the point. So she really challenges that and turns it all upside down and says, “No, it’s the opposite. It’s an inside-out job. It’s all coming from you. It’s how you are showing up to life.” And i- and we kind of know that for those who are more observant. We have a lot of references to that, how the life is a mirror to you. And, and maybe in the more spiritual world, even in the secular spiritual world, people who are seekers may have heard concepts like this. But she really brings it home in a very relatable way that we as seekers, whether you are religious or not, are all connected to a higher source, and that higher source did not, did not create this world for us to fail. There’s a journey maybe for maybe most of us that have to come to that place where we feel that love and that He, He’s there supporting us, but we were created with incredible, incredible capabilities that we’re not aware of because we get all this influence from the outside saying, “Oh, because you grew up like this, because you had that abuse, because, because, because, you’re now stuck.” And her work challenges that and turns it all, all upside down, and we’re never stuck. Because if we come back to full swing to how we started, we have this peace inside of us that is godly. That peace is unbroken, it’s indestructible- And is so capable. It’s like a, like a line straight up to the, the higher realms of, of, of pulling down tremendous help. So on a practical level, if we can meet ourselves with tremendous compassion when we get that shutdown, ’cause you asked for a little bit more practical, if I understood correct. If you are feeling shutdown, and you’re feeling flooding, and you’re totally overwhelmed, or you think, “How?” Time’s constantly being renewed. We’re constantly being renewed. There is so much hope out there. And it doesn’t mean that we become happy in the next second because, “Oh, I just remembered there’s G-d,” and, “Okay, G-d, you can do anything.” That’s not hope. Hope isn’t G-d’s gonna show up and be my servant like an ATM machine. Hope is really, really learning to have the self-compassion and love for yourself that you can then re- redirect it out into life. And it’s not something, again, like you wanted like an ABC for the other question. It’s not an ABC of how do we do that. It’s when you truly see something as true, that I am this divine being. I’m unbroken. I’m gorgeous. My journey has meaning and purpose. Hey, I’m here. Hey, before we continue the episode, I want to ask you something. Are you ready to get answers from God directly? 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I’ll tell you something real about me. I have a really hard time shutting off my brain. It’s constantly going, and it’s not, not good. And so I listen to podcasts on double speed, and then when I show up to real life, I’m like, “Why am I not talking faster,” sort of sometimes. It’s not good. I became a real product of the 2026 that we live in. And I made a decision this year. You know, for the new year, everyone takes on these little, they call it kabbalahs. These little, what’s the English word? I’m blanking. I’m totally blanking I also just blanked commitments, let’s say, but there’s a better word. Yeah. And I said for my commitment- Resolutions Yes. Every time I come out of the bathroom, there’s a prayer you’re supposed to say. For 20 seconds, I’m not moving. I can’t even tell you how hard it is, s- and especially in the beginning. I’m just not moving. I’m gonna completely concentrate on gratitude and the prayer of asking that my health should continue, ’cause it’s about the body, and which is especially meaning for me ’cause I, I really feel my work’s a lot of the physical and the spiritual, and that combination, and how it really is all one. It has affected my life. So that was the beginning of the year, and then I decided I also work out. So I decided that at the end of each session, I’m ready to, like, rush into my day. Instead of doing that, I was going to lie on my mat for three minutes. Can I tell you how long three minutes are? Yeah. So long, and I was just gonna be. And I we’re, we’d, we’re not beings anymore. We’re doers, and we’re constantly doing, and I have to do more. Letting go, I can’t even tell you how life slows down. I start hearing the birds. I feel the wind on my cheek. I hear the cars outside. I feel where I’m feeling in my body, and that slows me down for the rest of life. So why am I even bringing this up? ‘Cause you asked me, how do you feel resilient. I think we need to slow down, ’cause it’s there. It’s just really, really quiet. It’s really, really quiet. But when we show up and say, “Hey, I’m here. Show me,” that humbleness we spoke about, and you listen, you learn to listen, the answers are there, and they’re breadcrumbs. You don’t get to see the whole picture till you pick up that breadcrumb, so it’s this trail, and it’s completely going into the unknown, which takes tremendous amount of faith. But you only get that faith when you believe in yourself, and that comes back to really, really learning who you are, and then you receive. Does that make sense? It totally aligns with the CALM method. You know, I have the CALM method: connect to yourself- Mm-hmm … ask for abundance, listen for the answer, and master a higher level of consciousness. There’s, like, the four steps to creating flow. And you basically, like, really touched on a lot of what I teach, which is amazing, and I’m… I think that it’s universal. That’s why it’s so resonant. It’s very powerful. First of all, I am so proud of you, and so jealous- … that you’re able to slow down for the prayer after the bathroom. It’s, like, the hardest prayer to slow down for because you’re like, “Okay, come on,” like, “We gotta get things moving.” Totally a thing that I look up to you for. And also, like, it just made sense, so, you know, after exercising to, like, slow down for three minutes, three minutes is a very long time. I once did this I have one of my, one of my steps to connect to yourself is put on a four-minute timer and freeze and, like- Mm don’t move a muscle for four minutes. And then when you’re done with the four minutes, you’re allowed to journal and get it all out, whatever, and it’s like so much clarity comes out of four minutes of complete freeze. Like, not being allowed to move a muscle is pretty crazy. I’m, I’m a little bit, like, curious about how you got to this, you know? Like, a little bit of the journey, ’cause it feels like this is, you know, layers and layers of depth that have built over time, and I, I wanna hear a little bit about the journey itself, if you don’t mind sharing. Yeah. Do you wanna ask me something specific? Yeah, just, like, you know, how did you grow up? How did you get into, How did you get into all of this work, and also what did you do before? Sort of like, just like a timeline that takes us through the journey. Mm-hmm. So such a good question. And I’m a I’m hearing noise outside my door, so I’m, I’m like half my head is w- going, “What’s…” ‘Cause we have a technician in the house fixing stuff. But I’m here with you. So I’m just gonna take a breath so I could come back into this moment. I think for me I used to be a personal trainer, and I ran workshops for women using dance to get out of your head, and journaling. I would do retreats. And then sometimes I would throw in art journaling. And the theme that kept coming over, and my whole life, I see that I’m always searching for that enoughness. I want you to feel loved. I want you to feel safe in your own skin and in your own body, in your own life, and that kept coming up in my personal training, and I think that’s why women kept coming back. And then at the same time, on the side I was painting, but for myself. And I, I, I don’t know how vulnerable to get, but I had a, a few years ago, it’s now 10 years ago in the 40th week I lost a baby. And I’m not gonna go into it in depth, but it was a pivotal life-changing moment for me because we get choices, and we, we choose how to show up in life to a certain extent, right? We don’t know exactly where the specific point of our free will lies. But there were certain areas I was not showing up in the way that I wanted. And when that happened, I remember turning to my husband and saying, “We have a choice. I have a choice I can keep going in the specific way that I was living, or I could choose to change. And I can’t even tell you how scared I was to change ’cause I was really, really comfortable, and not comfortable at the same time, but more comfortable in the safety of what I knew than changing those specific areas. And, and I changed. I… It was a slow, slow, slow, slow, slow journey ’cause I feel like I’m a turtle, you know? Sometimes I feel people are rushing around just going and doing and, and, and, and rising, and I’m like drip, drip, drip. But Rabbi Kiva also was drip, drip, drip, so he became quite great. I’ll take that. But the slow and steady, G-d willing, I will win my own personal race, whatever that race is supposed to get me to, a finish line. To fulfill my potential. So when I did that, I had been journaling painting a lot, and I was putting a lot of that art onto my walls, and people for years had been asking me to buy it. And one particular couple, until this day I feel so sad that I didn’t say yes. They were a Russian couple, an older couple, and they came and they saw a specific piece. And I still have that piece, so if… I don’t know how to reach them, but if you watch this podcast, it’s yours. They wanted to buy it, and I said no because I felt that my art was like my children. It was a piece of me, and I was selfish in that way. And, and I couldn’t give it up. I just, I just didn’t want to. And I was also afraid of starting an art business, I’m not a businesswoman. My personal training was one-on-one or with small retreat groups. I don’t know how to do business. I don’t… It’s not my world. And when this happened, I felt like I was being called. I was called to show up in life in a different way. And coinciding sort of with that is I had gone back to America for a wedding, and I hadn’t been back in America in years and years and years. So when I went to back to America, I brought gifts for people I hadn’t seen. And for me, my love language is to give a piece of me, and it was a piece of art. So I brought some art to give out to people that I loved and hadn’t seen. And when I gave it to them, I was in a public place, ’cause some people flew in to meet me since it was a very short trip, and we met somewhere public. And there were other people there, and a woman came over and she said, “That’s gorgeous. I wanna buy that. Where can I get it?” So I said, “Well, I’m the artist. I’m just giving this to her as a gift.” And she said, “Well, how much is it?” And me not being a businesswoman, I’ve changed dramatically. I’m, with the, really with the help of my husband, who has the brain for this, I was gonna say 150 shekel, 120, which is about the equivalent for Americans listening I would say 20, $25. And I was giving this specific piece to a sister-in-law, and she looked at me and she said, “I could tell you were going to do something stupid, like say that.” Now, she told me that afterwards, but in the moment she cut me off and she said, “The small one is 400, the big one’s 600.” And the woman said, “I’ll take the big one.” It had never crossed my mind but it really made sense because of my art and … I really hope this is not ego saying this, but I don’t think it is because you’re supposed to own your gifts. My art really is, is quite different, and I think people really see something deeper in the art, and that’s what good art does. It makes you think. It makes you feel. It’s supposed to make you think and feel. You wanna stand and stare at that for a while. And I realized that I was being called to give and to stop being selfish. And that just started a very long journey, and with a lot of tears along the way and a lot of learning, ’cause I’m the most least techy person in the world, and now I have a website. So much ups and downs, so much learning, so much learning about myself. That’s a, a little, little piece that I could share. That’s really beautiful Yeah. That is really amazing. And was that the first time you sold a piece? It was the first time, yeah. And, and I realized that people weren’t joking when they said, “We wanna buy your art.” But I think it was when I was ready to hear it in a deeper way that, oh, I can let go. Right. Yeah. So let’s bring resilience back into that experience. Mm-hmm. What do you think is the connection, and what could people take away from that? You are capable of so much more than the lies that you’ve been told and the lies that your head tells you. You are so strong, each one of you who are listening. I, I just look around and the things that are going around in Israel we’re constantly in a war. I don’t even remember what war we’re in, honestly. It … People are like, it, it, it never ends. Right. And sure, there’s a lot of destruction and a lot of fear, but it is way, way outweighed by the love, compassion, and they call them hesed organizations, which are more than just charity. I don’t really have the proper word f- for, for the individuals and for the global people that get up every day. Life is going on as usual, and people are helping each other. And the courage that people… I mean, even think about COVID. That was universal. There was so much beautiful things that happened. Where is that coming from? Right? It’s the human condition that we are created to build, we are created to grow, we are created to give. It’s all there. That’s so beautiful. That’s amazing and it’s true. Where can people find you? They’re listening to this podcast, they’re gonna go on the email list and, and find the links, or they’re gonna go down to the show notes and find the links. Where can they find you? How can they get in touch with you? How can they buy your art, you know, hang it on their walls, experience something deeper while they’re looking at it? So my website is blimanechama.com, and I’m also on Instagram. I am genuinely… I still have an email list for my… I used to send out emails to all my subscribers for my personal training, and I still send out, not as much anymore, but now I’m really transitioning fully into the art. So if you sign up, you get a free beautiful digital… And it’s so funny because now it’s popping into my head. What am I offering? My free offering to you is that if you subscribe, and then you get more heartfelt blogs and behind the scenes, you will get a free digital download of a painting. I think you get a choice between two paintings, but with a prayer. And what’s the prayer? It’s the Modeh Ani prayer, which is the morning prayer that you say when you wake up, which is, “Oh- I am acknowledging that I am a piece of God, which is our topic. We are resilient and connected to him always, and he knows we can do it. He believes in us. It’s his belief in us affirmation, us believing in him affirmation. So that’s my gift to anybody who signs up. And I also respond individually to every single email, no matter how big. It’s my commitment, ’cause it’s so important to me that this isn’t just… I’m not putting my art onto, like, Art Print America or Fine Art Universe that everybody can… Y- it just into the universe and nobody knows who bought and didn’t. It’s really about you, and that’s my point. So I respond. If you have questions, you just wanna say hi, just reach out. That’s amazing. Yeah. I love it. I love that you have so many different styles, because sometimes there’s certain artists that, like, either you love it or you hate it. You know? And, like, either you find your style in it or you don’t. And here, while you were scrolling, I was thinking, “Wow, like, this speaks to so many different styles. It speaks to so many different people.” And I can’t think of a single person who would look through the gallery and not find at least one thing that they absolutely love. You’re so kind. Thank you for saying that. Yeah. I still remember the flowers. You were, like, scrolling quickly, and there was these beautiful flowers sort of, like, dancing. The movement there is just amazing. Was it this one? I have a few flower ones. No, it was on white. It was, like, pink flowers on white. Uh-huh. Large-ish flowers. Oh, they were so pretty. But, like, they left an impression on me, and I saw them for, like, a split second. Keep going down. I don’t know which one. These ones right here. Huh? Blooms in quiet? Yeah. Send me your address and I will send you a piece. Ah, that’s exciting. Okay. But that is the one that, like, totally jumped at me, and I thought, “Isn’t that interesting?” Because it’s a totally different style than- Okay … some of the other things, you know? And that’s what made me think of this, you know, just the, the understanding that you can have so many parts of you, and they could be expressed in so many different ways. And I think also in the resilience part of, like, just being in your season, when you’re resilient, it doesn’t mean you have to be consistent. It doesn’t have the mean you have to always be the same. It doesn’t mean, like, always have to be, you know, sort of like clockwork. It means that wherever you are, you’re okay, and you’re going to be okay. And I think that’s really, like, to wrap up the whole concept of resilience, that that’s it. You know? It’s like, be in your season and- Allow. Allow, give yourself permission to really be in it. Like you said, stop trying to do or like control it or push it or shove it or like stick it in a box. Like just be in it. Ugh, love it. Thank you. I think that was perfect. Everybody listening, just listen to that. That was the, the best part. Thank you. Thank you for being on my podcast. This was so much fun. It really was. Yes. And thank you all for listening. Make sure you go down to the show notes and find the website and look through the gallery. It is magnificent. And all you people who are on my email list, you will definitely get all the links there. Thank you. Thank you for coming. Thank you for joining, and don’t forget to be connected for real. And that’s it. Thank you for listening to the very end. I would love if you can leave a review and subscribe to the podcast. Those are things that tell the algorithm, “This is a good podcast,” and makes sure to suggest it to others. Wouldn’t it be amazing if more people became more connected for real? And now take a moment and think of someone who might benefit from this episode. Can you share it with them? I am Rebbetzin Bat-Chen Grossman from ConnectedForReal.com. Thank you so much for listening, and don’t forget, you can be connected for real